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fgarvin · Nov 03, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I think you meant "Prophecies and Factions", but like a stated at the beginning, with the size and complexity of Nightfall, I think ANet can wait longer than six month before releasing Chapter IV. I too was ready to move on after a relatively short period of time in Factions. Tryia still holds my attention and Elona intrigues me.

Sophitia Leafblade · Nov 03, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I dont deny u can move on and not do everything with all char but when alot of poeple start missig things it makes some of the less popular things even quieter since no ones got time for them; Need i say Jade Quarry or the Titan missions etc.

Trvth Jvstice · Nov 03, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Some have mentioned that the O. P. shouldn't be concerned if GW comes out with new chapters before he's ready to move on, since he could simply buy the next chapter when he's ready. But to the vast majority of players, there's too much of a risk of missing out on new events and new chapter only items and options to not buy a new chapter.

Remember how upset some Tyrian players were when the Dragon Festival was available ONLY to Factions players? I'm sure that many GW players purchased Factions simply because they didn't want to miss out on the event items and games. Also some bought Factions simply for the storage upgrade.

I have played Nightfall with a NF character for maybe 30 minutes total, the majority of my time in Elonia has been with my Tyrian Warrior farming for Halloween collector items. When the Halloween event ended, I went back to Tyria and Factions missions and quests. I'm sure I'll eventually play my Paragon, but right now I'm still enjoying my time in Tyria and Cantha.

fgarvin · Nov 03, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

Some have mentioned that the O. P. shouldn't be concerned if GW comes out with new chapters before he's ready to move on, since he could simply buy the next chapter when he's ready. But to the vast majority of players, there's too much of a risk of missing out on new events and new chapter only items and options to not buy a new chapter.

Remember how upset some Tyrian players were when the Dragon Festival was available ONLY to Factions players? I'm sure that many GW players purchased Factions simply because they didn't want to miss out on the event items and games. Also some bought Factions simply for the storage upgrade.

I have played Nightfall with a NF character for maybe 30 minutes total, the majority of my time in Elonia has been with my Tyrian Warrior farming for Halloween collector items. When the Halloween event ended, I went back to Tyria and Factions missions and quests. I'm sure I'll eventually play my Paragon, but right now I'm still enjoying my time in Tyria and Cantha.

And those people would be correct if I was a solo player, content to go through the game with Henchies or PUGs...but, I prefer Guildies.

As for events, not too concerned with those. Yeah, they're fun, and the Dragon mask is awesome, but these would never prompt me to buy a chapter.

Sol_Vie · Nov 03, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I'm split on this...

While I think that 6 months between chapters is enough time, I'd like to see more content like SF. Not because I want to slow the chapter development, but because it's more free content which is always good.

Sid Soggybottom · Nov 03, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

I say keep it at 6 months between Chapters. If you feel like you can't catch up with 6 months in between Chapters, there's nothing keeping you from NOT buying the next chapter until you finish the current one. Why restrict people who have already finished from getting access to the next Chapter?

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

But to the vast majority of players, there's too much of a risk of missing out on new events and new chapter only items and options to not buy a new chapter.

If you're so concerned about missing events then go buy the freaking Chapter and go to the event and then put that Chapter aside until you're ready to play. You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know. Having open options is better than to restrict them in a way that less people benefit from them.

EDIT: Edited to avoid confusion about who I'm talking to.

Griff Mon · Nov 03, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I am loving this. This reminds me very much of Prophecies when it first came out, except I understand the gaming system and am totally into it. I am taking my necro from Prophecies and Factions through the game as everyone seems to need a MM. I made a Dervish that I am keeping on the beginner island to see if I have the patience to get a survivor title on her without leaving the island. The quests are better. The missions are full of surprises. Although Factions was a disappointment, this game rocks for me.

fgarvin · Nov 03, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom

If you're so concerned about missing events then go buy the freaking Chapter and go to the event and then put that Chapter aside until you're ready to play.

I'd love to know when I said that I was concerned about missing events. Reading comprehension FTW.

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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom

Why restrict people who have already finished from getting access to the next Chapter?

Having open options is better than to restrict them in a way that less people benefit from them.

Both good points.

Sid Soggybottom · Nov 03, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by fgarvin

I'd love to know when I said that I was concerned about missing events. Reading comprehension FTW.

It wasnt addressed to you, someone else expressed concerns about missing events.

fatmouse · Nov 03, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

six months is NOT too long, if they change it to a year for each one after the next i'm quitting GW.

The whole premise of GW is free online play and AWESOME expansions every six months. Infact if I could change it I would make the expansions every 3 months because i love them that much!

The whole premise? There was more than 6 months between prophecies and factions, and there might be between nightfall and 4...

They didn't know GW was going to be popular so it wasn't the premise at all.

Sid Soggybottom · Nov 03, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by fatmouse

The whole premise? There was more than 6 months between prophecies and factions, and there might be between nightfall and 4...

They didn't know GW was going to be popular so it wasn't the premise at all.

No, they have always stated that they'd release a new chapter every six months even as far back as Beta. I'm not sure why it took a year between Prophecies and Factions though.

Trvth Jvstice · Nov 03, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom

It wasnt addressed to you, someone else expressed concerns about missing events.

I don't know what you mean. I made it clear in my post that I have all 3 chapters. I don't think you read all of my post, since you advised me to do exactly what I said I had done.

Sid Soggybottom · Nov 03, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I don't know what you mean. I made it clear in my post that I have all 3 chapters. I don't think you read all of my post, since you advised me to do exactly what I said I had done.

*sigh* You said that there were concerns that people would miss events because they're still in a previous Chapter. It's clear that you agree with those concerns in your post.

So yes, I just told you to do exactly what you did do....but I was addressing mostly to everyone in general who feels like they'll miss events if they're not caught up yet.

Zolderick · Nov 05, 2006, 07:22 AM // 07:22

I still think the release intervals are too short, you don't get to familiarise yourself fully with each campaign that is released. I guess this is the only way they make money though.

Faith Angelis · Nov 05, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I bought Prophesies almost exactly a year ago, and I'm dropping some fairly substantial hints to my partner that I'd like factions for Christmas... I have a partner, a small child and a full time job, so although I enjoy the game I don't have masses of time to spend on it. I'm also the sort to make sure I've seen everything before I move on: My main character is just on the cusp of Grandmaster Cartographer, along with the Protector, Advanced Treasure Hunter and Seeker titles she already carries.

Long story short, different people play the game at different speeds, and start from different points: Six months sounds like a good mid-point to release for those who want to play quickly, while no inconvienience to those who don't - myself included!

Timestop · Nov 05, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

In my opinion release intervals are just fine. I loved Prophecies, playing it through took time, unlike in Factions after one weekend it was "finished" with 1 of my char.

I'm into pve, and there was about 3 month pause in playing Factions after finishing it with 3 chars. Nightfall is truly a delight and now I'm loving Guild Wars again. Long live Nightfall! Now its time again to explore some Elonian soil...

Bibblenorn · Nov 05, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44

I think the interval of 6 months is nice. I liked prophesies, and I did like factions ( I lost interest trying to move characters through Tyria so slowly. Short attention span). Nightfall came out at just the right time for me. Just before midterms. heh. Factions was starting to become just as much of a grind as Proph.

However, I do see a problem with the chapters coming out this quickly. Say you wanted to do one of the cooperative missions or one that requires multiple actual people, from the earlier chapters, it can sometimes be difficult to find others in the now deserted towns. I still have an elementalist who has received a birthday present still sitting in pre-searing. I cringe when I consider trying to take her though the desert. She may just sit in pre-searing forever.

But again, the 6 month interval is nice for those of us with short attention spans. and Nightfall seems to be especially detailed.

Aphraelyn · Nov 05, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Heh, we were just talking about this in guild chat a few days ago. Personally I think Nightfall is a lot more....Epic I guess. It feels alot more like prophecies and I'm really enjoying playing through it and I'm just taking my time to enjoy it all. However, there are some stuff which just seem...incomplete...sorta like the CE dance effects which were released after the official game release.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that ANet didn't do NF properly, I love NF and I think it was really well done but I think ANet should put a bit more time into the campaigns and fix up all the little things before release =/ This would also allow the players to play more of that campaign I guess =P

I'm not bashing ANet at all btw =/

explodemyheart · Nov 05, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

I really see no need for them to postpone. Once they start doing that, I can guarantee you they will start losing customers.

When they release chapters quickly, you have the option to hold off on buying a new chapter until you get everything completed that you wanted to complete in others. Just because you're moving slowly through the game, which there's nothing wrong with, doesn't mean everybody is. Once everybody's gotten all of their characters through NF that they want to, what is there left for them to do? A lot of people sit around and grind farm for a few months until the new chapter is released. If they make it even longer, a lot of people are going to get bored with it and move on.

There's no need to complain about it. Just don't buy the next until you're ready.

*Darcy* · Nov 05, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

@fgarvin - Posters seem to be missing your point about your problem being keeping up with guildmates progress so that you can do things as a group (which is one of the purposes of a guild).

I have a similar problem. I have a very small guild and a 3-month later purchase of Prophecies. Factions came out when I had only been playing for 2 months. I have never caught up. I haven't ever finished Prophecies with any character (got war & mes as far as Iron Mines). I've completed Factions with my warrior (mes and Canthan ranger almost there). Now I have brought my warrior over to NF so I can keep her moving through it with the quicker player while I also try to keep my Dervish up to speed (I was sick for two days and dropped 3 levels behind).

Maybe I can hire a neighborhood kid to bring my other characters along. I can read while he plays. Of course, then he/she will want to get their own copy and I'll have to search for a new helper. That sounds like more work.

fgarvin, we can't win. To depress you even more, I usually play 20-25 hours a week. So the forecast for you does not look good.